CBD Misinformation 2023

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. Welcome to the CBD Ed show with Ed Chaney, a CBD industry expert and business executive. In this program, we will discuss the uses of CBD and other methods of treatment that are alternatives, would also complement conventional medicines. Now, here is your host, Ed Janey. [00:00:23] Speaker B: Welcome to the CBD Ed Show. I'm your host, Ed Chaney, along with beautiful Kimberly Rose. [00:00:31] Speaker A: Thank you, Ed. Hello, everyone. [00:00:33] Speaker B: Gosh, really, really glad that we are here. Sharing a pretty cool subject today is about the misinformation in the cannabis market. Now, we used to coin that term all the time. Oh, my God. There's so much misinformation in this space. And you and I also. I'm speaking with Kim now, created a story around this one that is like a fairy tale story, you know, where you have a hero, you have a villain, and the hero is trying to accomplish something like, you know, save the princess from the tower. Well, in this one, the consumer is the hero. You guys were buying cbd. The villain is misinformation, and you have to fight that villain in order to find your way to the tower and save the princess. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. Well, I. A lot of the world is full of misinformation these days. It feels like it. So it's. It's tough when you don't know. You don't have the right information about a product. You kind of go, you know, I'm just going to. I'm just going to wait. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it. [00:01:56] Speaker B: I'm just. Yeah, just. I'm just. Yeah, freeze. I'm gonna not. Yeah. Make a decision. And, you know, when you said that, because this is a very valid point, when you said that, the first thing went through my brain was covet. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Sure. There's just so much misinformation about everything out there, and it's just. Again, it's really hard as a consumer, especially in, let's call these supplement areas where, you know. But it. Yeah, if you think of it as a more natural supplement, then I think that takes away some of that fear. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Yep, Yep. Okay. So what we did is we kind of polled our audience. We went around to, you know, different. Different mediums to find out what are customers asking in that area of misinformation. And we have about 20 items to share with you today. I think you will find this to be a very informative show today, one that will make you probably more effective at being a customer, but not so much just being a customer. But if you're looking for a therapeutic experience with cbd, this is Likely going to help you get more for that. All right, well, let's start through these. And Kim and I have split these up today, so she'll have some, I'll have some. And we're just going to batter back and forth until we feel like we have removed a lot of misinformation today. Hey, let's start with question number one. Can CBD be extracted from marijuana? This is a big misinformation, and it's not really the market that has created this one. It is that marijuana has been a stigma and our community in our social arena for so long that it's just, It's. It just holds. It has a lot of energy. All right, let's. Let's just talk through this one. Can CBD be extracted from marijuana? Yes, it can, and yes, it's the exact same compound. Is that CBD that is extracted from the hemp plant? There's just one difference. The marijuana plant has very little CBD in it and has a ton of thc. So in order to harvest the volume of CBD to be helpful, you need a lot of. You need a lot of that plant. So it's not economically favorable to harvest CBD from the marijuana plant. Okay, Right. Simple answer. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, again, a lot of people wonder, you know, the different variations. We are talking about the CBD molecule all by itself. Not a full spectrum, not a broad spectrum, not any of those others, but just the CBD molecule by itself because there's a lot of cannabinoids in the both plants. And CBD by itself is in the marijuana plant, but it is so small. [00:05:14] Speaker B: All about ratios. All about ratios. Well, what do you got there on your list, Kimberly? [00:05:20] Speaker A: Well, my question is very similar to yours. Is CBD marijuana? Again, no, it is not. CBD is non psychoactive. [00:05:33] Speaker B: That's the key, right? Yeah. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Marijuana is psychoactive. So if you're buying a CBD product, you're not going to have any psychoactiveness. It is not from the marijuana plant. [00:05:49] Speaker B: No. No high. No high at all. [00:05:51] Speaker A: No high. [00:05:52] Speaker B: And when she says that, she's correct. No high at all, Right. Not even the slightest. Oh, when I take it, I feel dizzy. No, it's absolutely impossible. Why? Because it does not affect those neurotransmitters at all. All right. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:09] Speaker B: It's a very simple truth. So great answer. All right. Is CBD safe? Now, that's a big piece of misinformation, and there are a lot of people, a lot of groups that are contributing to that misinformation. And I'm saying that both from the consumer side and the seller side and the legislation and regulatory side, everybody's contributing to this one. All right, So I thought I would just clear up a couple positions here. World Health Organization currently says no evidence that the use of CBD is connected to any health problems. FDA says we are not. We're still concerned about long term use. The public is positioned on is CBD safe? So I read a review from Pub pubmed published last year says reportedly consumers have a positive attitude towards the safety and efficacy of cbd. So is CBD safe? It has not been conclusively arrived at yet. But there are some of your big players and what they have to say. [00:07:30] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, I can tell you from my personal experience, I have been an avid. I'm talking avid daily, multiple different ways of using cbd. Topicals, oils, capsules, gummies. Yeah, I've been using it for five years. My liver is in tip top shape and I feel fantastic. [00:07:56] Speaker B: Oh, that's, that's nice. Way to put that. Very nice. Now we did a show just yesterday on homeostasis and the study of homeostasis is very in favor of cannabinoids, meaning cbd. All right, so let's move to. I'm a. I'm going to double up on this one, cbd. So again, this is a misinformation. CBD hasn't been scientifically proven to help any health conditions. Yes, this is a misinformation because in some way that is correct. In some way it is not. So again, let me look at two different perspectives. Fda, their perspective on this not being scientifically proven is they currently, and this is very recent, established a new regulatory pathway for CBD studies. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Good. [00:08:56] Speaker B: So there is now being created a pathway for these clinical studies to start to happen. Now, when I checked into. Well, how does the science and clinical community feel about this misinformation? Well, the first place I went to was Google Scholar and I typed in health benefits of cbd. Tim, take a wild guess how many results I might have got. [00:09:26] Speaker A: I would say quite a few. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Quite a few. That means 12. [00:09:30] Speaker A: At least 100. [00:09:33] Speaker B: All right, how about 118,000 benefits results? [00:09:39] Speaker A: Oh my goodness. Oh, results. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. You know what, I was just sensationalizing this. I apologize. Hey, so this is what I know. When I go to Google Scholar, my search is very specific to science based information. Yes, that is the benefit of using Google Scholar over regular Google. So there'll be published papers, 118,000 results. [00:10:09] Speaker A: On the benefits of CBD. [00:10:11] Speaker B: So, yeah, I said health benefits of CBD. Okay, so broad question. But the reality is I was looking for the scientific and clinical community, the clinical community's perspective on studying cbd. [00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:32] Speaker B: If that number was small, it's because they studied it and they couldn't find anything. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Right. [00:10:38] Speaker B: All right, so what do you got next? Eric Kimberly. [00:10:42] Speaker A: Okay, so my next question is, where can you purchase cbd? And I would say if you're a first time user and you really just don't know anything about cbd, I would go ahead and go to a CBD store. And the reason I say that is because you need to learn a little bit about the different variations of cbd. There's an isolate that we talked about earlier. There's a broad spectrum which has a lot of the plant, but not the thc. And then there's the full spectrum that has everybody in there, the full plant. So you need to learn a little bit about what works best for you. You also need to learn, like what are your, what, what's your milligrams? There's a lot of things that you can learn about. I mean, once you learn it, it's super easy, but you kind of just need to get some information. A lot of websites have great information, as long as they have some test results to back it up. You could also go online, but again, you really need to learn the basics about the three CBDs. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah, and I would agree. And going online and getting information is good, but you have to be capable of validating who is sharing this information with you. If it's a manufacturer or a retailer of products and they have test results, that's a good indicator. [00:12:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:09] Speaker B: If somebody is just putting out a blog, you really have to be. Well, because everybody's aware of all this misinformation. So how do you know when somebody who is writing a blog and posting it on the Internet, how do you know whether the information is valid or not? So I agree you have to be smart when you are visiting these stores. But even the, the scientific community and the clinical community really does put a lot of emphasis on showing up at a CBD store and a CBD store where that's their main product. You know, not a convenience store with CBD on the counter or, you know, a smoke shop or something like that. So they do favor what you just said. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I would not. I would not. I mean, unless, of course, again, I'm talking about new CBD users. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Right. [00:13:10] Speaker A: If you know your product, you know your CBD you know, your milligrams get. And you find it at the grocery store or the. Then I, I would say you're okay. [00:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And I read something the, A study by the. Put in the. The English Journal of Medicine. Now this study was specific to the epidemiology of sepsis in the United States where they cited a lot of study data using cannabis for their. For the treatment of that since it is a breakdown of the homeostasis in the body. Anyway, they provided something that was very, very unique. I had never seen and I really like this and I really want to share this. Seven steps we can take to generate a therapeutic cannabis experience. So if you're looking for CBD for a therapeutic reason, these seven steps are important. Now, it's not really that you have the knowledge to be able to do these seven steps, but you know how to get to this knowledge. So you know how to show up to a place like Kimberly store where you trust that she has this knowledge. Okay. Am I being completely clear? No matter where you go, you ask the, you get the answer to these seven questions and you will have a home run. All right, here we go. Choose a primary cannabinoid. Primary cannabinoid in your product could be CBD also, it also could be THC depending on what you are trying to. What the outcome you're trying to get right. Okay, Also choose, this is number two. Choose a secondary cannabinoid. Now, we know the importance of cannabinoids working together, which is why CBD by itself is no longer really a viable choice out there. So, all right, so one is knowing your primary cannabinoid. If you're shooting for, you know, something affects mood, you know, if you're shooting for something that affects a discomfort, you know, you might choose CBD as your primary. If you're shooting something that's mood, you might ensure that it has some, some neuro transmitter type cannabinoid like THC as its minor. Okay, so on the third one, there needs to be an understanding of the ratios between those two. Is it going to be heavy and CBD and light and THC or heavy and CBD enlightened cbg, you know it. Those need to now be considered and the, the person that is helping you with this consultation will know this because they will have all the knowledge of what each cannon is capable of doing and they also have the knowledge of which one of these are major cannabinoids and which ones are minor cannabinoids. Number four dosage, lot of time should be Spent on dosage. If you get it correct, this is number four of seven. Next we have the form of cannabis. How you are going to take it, is it going to be topical, is it going to be ingested, is it going to be inhaled? So knowing this also is very key because they deliver differently, don't they? And then finally we have the entourage effect. Now the Entourage effect they're referring to are components added to our already decided on cannabinoid profile. Things like terpenes and terpenoids. Those have additional entourage effects that can help with this therapeutic experience. And then finally, something that I hear Kim talk about all the time. And it takes a little bit of work, but a session log, because I know we're all uniquely different. But it's super easy to take a session log, track it over a few days, make adjustments, track it again, and really optimize what you are after. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I try and tell my customers, especially my first time ones, you're in charge. You're the one that needs to, to figure out your milligrams. I can give you the beginning of where I think you should be. But if you were just to jot down, I did, you know, I did a half a dropper in the morning, I did a half, you know, just jot down what you did, evaluate after three days and go, was that a good one or could I do it one in the morning and one at night? Just you're, you're in charge. I try and describe it like a bottle of Advil. If you take one Advil, that's because maybe your headache is nice and light or something is bothering you, but it's a small bother. And if you're taking four, that means you got a big pain that you're trying to get rid of. So that's how you should treat your cbd. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yep. All right, so one. So we just shared. One way to fight misinformation is to write those seven steps down. And when you go to make your purchase, get those answers, you will, you will slay the villain that is misinformation. Because they can't answer those questions. You gotta wonder, where is their knowledge? [00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:56] Speaker B: All right. Okay. And anybody wants to have that repeated, hit reverse or rewind. No, we're always happy to share that information. So I'm happy to share this entire report with you. So anybody that wants that. Infocannafil.com all right, how about CBD? It's a Schedule 1 narcotic. So no research has been done on this compound. No, CBD is not a Schedule 1 narcotic. They removed it many years ago. It's completely removed off the schedule of regulated drugs. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:39] Speaker B: Okay, so just to make that completely clear, what has stayed on there is thc, which is also a cannabinoid, but THC has data on there. And any other cannabinoids causing intoxicating effects, and that would be Delta 8 or some of these new cannabinoids that are surfacing Delta 10 or THC 10 0. You know, any of those things. And the most common term is if THC is in the phrase. The only THC that is not intoxicating is thc, vitamin D, V, V as in Victor. That is the only strain of THC that's not intoxicating. All right, let's see what you got there. [00:20:28] Speaker A: All CBD products are equal. Also a. No, this is misinformation. All CBD products are not created, are not equal. [00:20:38] Speaker B: By such a long stretch there. [00:20:40] Speaker A: I carry three as far as I, I mean, there's many versions of CBD products out there. These manufacturers like to blend just CBD and CBN and CBG, all those things. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:55] Speaker A: But your basic three CBDs are a CBD isolate, which again is just the CBD molecule, all isolated. A broad spectrum will carry most of the plant except for the thc. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:11] Speaker A: And then your full spectrum is your strongest. So I, I tell my customers, CBD alone is great, but not as broad spectrums in the middle. And then full spectrum is going to be your, your, your strongest cbd. [00:21:28] Speaker B: Right. And strong as in cbd. Not a potential for getting high. [00:21:32] Speaker A: No, you won't get high. It's just the most. It's got the whole plant in there working together. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Right. And now. And so a little, I can add to that just a little bit. All CBD products are equal. If you refer to those seven steps I just shared then, the knowledge of putting the right ratios of primary and secondary cannabinoids together with the right terpenoids and flavonoids and maybe other compounds. That is a skill and that often is. What could separate one product from another. [00:22:09] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:10] Speaker B: And I'm sorry, not that it often could. It often does. Separate products. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:19] Speaker B: And then at last, I have to say, the ability for the manufacturer to produce the product correctly, to report on its third party unbiased lab results, you know, those are all pretty key to a proper product. So when I go into the scientific community, they, they suggest, you know, we want your product to have more than one cannabinoid. We want your product to Be free of pesticides, heavy metals and toxins. We need that to be free. We need the potency levels to be identified. So these are the recommendations coming from the scientific and clinical community. So, yeah, that would. From even their perspective, all products are not equal. If you can demonstrate these, you are now in the area where they recommend. [00:23:17] Speaker A: I do think that you're getting better in your selections because I think a lot of the. I'm going to call them riffraff CBD manufacturers have left. Not. I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of them have left those gimmick CBDs. And we can talk about those a little bit later. But I feel like the manufacturers are getting better about making a good CBD product. [00:23:46] Speaker B: I agree. I agree. I think the. The industry is showing signs of settling down. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Professionals are starting to take over. And I really, really, really can appreciate when an industry starts to do that. Okay, how about processing and traveling with cbd? Lots of misinformation there. Mostly because people are just talking. [00:24:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Nobody's really hearing what the real rules are. And I can share those with you very quickly. [00:24:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:18] Speaker B: That is Federally, CBD is 100% legal and all 50 states, no question there at all anymore. The uniqueness with this regulation is that states may have a condition and most of those conditions are based on the level of THC is in there. But still no issues with cbd. Now, so that means if you're traveling to one of those places or moving to a state, then you might want to check on where you can purchase and what their conditions are. But that's it. How does TSA feel about cbd? This is their quote. We're not in the business of monitoring, managing drug trafficking. [00:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:07] Speaker B: And we. And they quote it. We do not check for cbd. [00:25:12] Speaker A: Right. Yeah, I thought that was. I mean, because I think that's probably one of the most common questions that my customers were asked. Like, I'm going to go on a vacation. Can I take this with me? [00:25:23] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Right. So 100% clear. Everybody can Google on it. We're sharing the information, but if you want to check it, you could 100% clear that it is safe to travel with your CBD. Now outside of the country, the most of the planet is CBD friendly. I can't speak for everybody. That's a lot of, a lot of homework to do, but easy for you to just go on to Google, type in your destination and CBD along with it, and you'll likely get your answer very easily. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you have any other questions, you can listen to last week's podcast where we did a really thorough dive into this. [00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah, we sure did. So there you go. I want to let you guys know that now we have an interesting topic coming up and that is drug testing. Again, full of misinformation. So we're going to take a break and then when we come back, DOT Department of Transportation just released their new testing standards. Yes, and I'm sure everybody will be excited to hear this one. And then even more so why did they do it? So anyway, let's take a quick break and when we come back, more on CBD and misinformation. We'll be right back. Follow Voice America at facebook.com/forward/voice America for juicy updates from your favorite radio shows and podcasts. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Live authentically, heal naturally with Canafil. We have three unique blends for pain relief, reducing stress and promoting healthy sleep. 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[00:29:42] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna get through it. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:29:44] Speaker B: But we got an exciting one here. I believe it's exciting because we have personally struggled with it. We have a lot of patients who have. Who are in a position with the Department of Transportation. And it is federally mandated that they get tested on a regular basis. And if they use cbd, Department of Transportation has always made this statement very clear. We test for cannabis. We do not test for cbd. That means that they won't separate it. If we're testing you for cannabis and your CBD product has THC in it and you didn't know it, we're not in control of that because we don't test for cbd. That's what they mean by that. So that always put all those folks in a position of concern and worry. All right, so I'm thinking about the truck driver who is spending all day bouncing up, down in his chair back has got to be killing them. Right. And he cannot use this product. He's stuck with other alternatives in today's Western medicine. Some of those alternatives we already are aware of because the consequences of them have been talked about a lot. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:31:02] Speaker B: So let's get to what they have said. They came out with a statement, and starting June 1st of this year, they're going to move from a urine test to a saliva test. They are going to move from 50 nanograms per milliliter to 4 nanograms per milliliter. I said that, right? I did, yes. And this will be from the saliva. Now, what is the value of this? Value of this is THC can show up and your saliva, but not more than 24 hours. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Right. [00:31:45] Speaker B: So within 24 hours, it's gone. And I don't even think that's the peak. I can't tell you exactly what the peak is, but within 24 hours, it's gone. So they are moving to this because they're losing people left and right. Like, they have a shortage of drivers. They have a shortage of just. That whole labor pool is suffering because somebody's using cbd. They go in and get this mandated test. It comes back positive. They like, there's no. I don't do thc. And they just don't return back to work. Like, this is ridiculous. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the thing is, is that. And this has actually been an issue in my former life when I worked for a criminal defense attorney, this was a DUI issue. Also because a urine analysis means that if it's all the way down your body into your urine, the likelihood of you still being in a dui. [00:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:54] Speaker A: You're. It's hard to tell what, where, when, how did you drink it, or did you drink. When were you drunk, is what I'm saying. So with thc, it's even worse because it stores in your fat. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Yep. [00:33:09] Speaker A: You. You didn't use it for, like, two weeks. [00:33:12] Speaker B: You haven't 14 days. Yep. [00:33:14] Speaker A: And your. It stores in your fat, so it. You can pee it out. It's still coming out in your urine. So a saliva test, A blood test would probably be most accurate. But a saliva test is good because that means you are under the influence in some sort of way. [00:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah. So Wells Fargo passed on a study. They said tens of thousands of truckers tested positive and decided not to return back to work, which was contributing to a great decline. And the transportation sector. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:51] Speaker B: Now that means everybody's being affected. Politicians have jumped in on this going. We got to get a handle on this. This is ridiculous. Are you testing people that are positive? They may or may not have smoked? They may not have participated in THC for one of two reasons. Either they had casual exposure, but it was 14 days ago. What the hell did I have to do with driving or whatever the position is the day they got the test, or they're using a product that's 100% legal. I'll say that federally, 100% legal, and it still managed to measure on their test. So I'm glad to hear they made this adjustment. [00:34:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I, I'm. Like, we talked about yesterday, I think it's because the DOT is so huge. [00:34:43] Speaker B: They. [00:34:43] Speaker A: They can't. They just do a. If there's thc, we don't care what level. It's the reading in your urine. You're gone. [00:34:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:51] Speaker A: So because there are tests that can show the levels. Like, if, like a full spectrum CBD will show very little thc, but marijuana will show high. [00:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But you. You are correct. They're a large organization, and they clearly state they're not in a position to be able to do that. They. They have to come across with a single statement, which is, sorry, we're not testing for CBDs. [00:35:16] Speaker A: So, yeah. [00:35:16] Speaker B: And so we're putting that onus on. [00:35:18] Speaker A: You Now a lot easier anyway. You just hand them a swab, stand right in front of them, watch them swab their mouth, stick it in the tube and off it goes. That' better than trying to find somebody in a stall peeing in a cup. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Yep. All right, so, so that's the news. And again, so now it's four nanograms per milliliter of saliva. Now, hey, I looked into corporate America, but I've already known this. Corporate America has been struggling with this test for years, especially after the pandemic when the employment rate was just terrible. So, yeah, the corporate America, they can have a bunch of these tests that they likely have pre purchased, but ask them if they're actually using them or actually using the results of them. They can't afford to. And then they also can't afford to be wrong. Corporate America sometimes has deep pockets and lawyers love to dig into those deep pockets. Because you penalized my client for using something that was federally legal. [00:36:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Like cbd. [00:36:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:27] Speaker B: So corporate America has taken a position on that and that probably started easily five, six years ago. I think sports government, all of them have been moving around this topic, trying to reposition how they want to handle it because the impact is great to all those areas. [00:36:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hard. I mean, listen, we can kind of sort of understand why DEA just took the whole family of the cannabis family and made it a Schedule 1 drug because it was like, oh, this is too confusing. We can't figure this all out. We can't say this is good and that's not good. I mean, it was hard back then. And a, they didn't, they didn't want to work on the, they didn't want to do the work. Yeah, but they have to do the work now. [00:37:17] Speaker B: Yep, they do. They have to. And there's pathways to have it done. So it's, it's all going to happen. I got a feeling we've got a nice couple of years ahead of us. All right, take it away, Ms. Kimberly Rose. [00:37:30] Speaker A: It's funny, we're really only talking about two molecules today. It's the CBD molecule and the THC molecule. Because my next question is CBD is medical and THC is recreational. Boy, see, now this is tough because I believe that THC can be therapeutic and there's an enormous community out there that is using THC therapeutically, but it is also very recreationally favored. So I'm going to say that this is false. CBD is not recreational. I mean, you're not going to get, you would take it recreationally. If you just wanted to feel good for the day, like say you just want to feel good, you just want to feel better for the day, and you just want to be like a daily dose of something. But if you're in pain. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Think CBD is going to be more beneficial. But THC also helps with pain. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Yes. So the, the scientific community is in line with what you're saying. Yeah, they what, what? The community at large and where the misinformation is coming from is more from that stigma we spoke of earlier. Everybody is used to THC being that thing, Right. That we smoke. We got high and yeah, there went our evening. But in the end, the, in the. What do we want to call this, the therapeutic world? The amount of THC that's therapeutic is extremely small and not necessarily recreational. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Yeah. You don't need to. You don't need to get high. You don't need to use a large amount of THC for it to be therapeutic. In fact, if you go too high, you're completely out of the therapy world. [00:39:37] Speaker B: And that, that's pretty much what they mean by it being recreational, or at least from my perspective. And this is why I don't see CBD as being recreational at all. Yes. Supports a good feeling, but you certainly can't get recreational with it. [00:39:52] Speaker A: You're not going to get the giggles. [00:39:54] Speaker B: Right. Okay. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Right. [00:39:56] Speaker B: So that's the way I see those two. Now let's move over to CBD converts to THC and your stomach. Yes, that was a misinformation on that top list. So I'll say it again. CBD converts to THC in your stomach. All right. Well, this is untrue for two reasons. One is CBD does not convert to thc, THCA converts to THC and it does it through decarboxylation. And that temperature is 230 degrees Fahrenheit. So this is. [00:40:33] Speaker A: So your stomach has nothing to do with CBD and thc. Right. [00:40:38] Speaker B: And there might be another. Another argument. Well, then CBG A converts to thc. Well, CBG A is the precursor for both CBG or both. I'm sorry, I'll say that. CBG A is the precursor for both CBD and thc, but once it has been extracted from the plant, it's stable and does not change. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:41:04] Speaker B: Only changes while existing in the plant. So CBD converts THC in your stomach is. No. Wrong. Absolutely. That's it. That's the answer. [00:41:15] Speaker A: That's misinformation. You're not going to. You're it's not going to turn you into. That's no. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Yep. It's a no. [00:41:24] Speaker A: It's a no. [00:41:24] Speaker B: Right. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Okay, so my next question is pets using cbd. All right, so I am all for pets using CBD all day, every day. Pets using cbd. When your dog gets to a certain point, age or cat or. Listen, there's many pets with a cannabinoid system. [00:41:48] Speaker B: All mammalians have it. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Yes. It's great for an older dog who. Arthritis pain. Yeah, it's really great. I know you get. I know. Way back when I had a beagle and she was on steroids for arthritis, it destroyed her liver. So this is a natural supplement that will help with those aches and pains that an older dog is feeling. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think even when we had veterinarians on our show, they supported this 100% and those would be the right folks to ask. I also would highly suggest that if this question is coming up in your brain, you pick up the phone and call your veterinarian or you call the veterinarian down the street. They are very educated about this system, the ECS system, which uses cannabinoids to enact it. So that's how, that's how confident we would be here. Just call your veterinarian. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Yes. I have a 12 year old golden retriever. She loves it. She knows that that's going to make her feel better. [00:43:10] Speaker B: And I would agree. She absolutely is aware. Is aware. Yeah. I think it's incredible. All right, well, there's another one that came up in a similar list and that is kids taking cbd. So I really didn't have to Google much of this because FDA approved the prescription product Epidiolex, which was cbd, and they approved it on the basis of therapeutic treatment for seizures in children. [00:43:46] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:48] Speaker B: So. And there is no mandate about the product not being used for children. As a matter of fact, even more so, there are studies that are directed at children around anxiety, sleep problems and depression. Very unique to children. All right, so children using cbd. There is. I have those two answers for you. So there's already been an approved FDA product for it, and there are tons of studies in those three areas. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very, it's very safe. I recommend to my customers that they stay with an isolate and just kind of make it a little easy and introduce the product to the child and, you know, just get every, get that feeling going, get that idea going. You can always move up to a full spectrum if you need to, but I, I start them out at Isolate. [00:44:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and that's because you're a mom, and I would imagine all moms will take that position. So. And that might also be lending to some of the misinformation is the mom factor. So again, mom's being over really protective. And, and I don't blame them. As a matter of fact, we need moms to be that way. Thank goodness they're that way. I might even say it that. I might say it in that light. It's the lack of this pathway to finite clinical studies that are missing. [00:45:28] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:28] Speaker B: And so if a mom had access to that information, they would likely react in kind. Like, if they knew what it was, if they had, you know, finite knowledge, then they would act in kind. So, yeah. [00:45:44] Speaker A: And most of my customers, let me just say, are treating their children for anxiety. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Very common. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Maybe like a little not sleeping at night situation. [00:45:55] Speaker B: I matches up with this, this claim that I found from a study. 100%. Okay, let's. Let's move to another cool one. Let me see here. Let me get some. That's cool. Let's see here. I know I'm humming on the radio. All right, let's go to this one. High doses of CBD is better than low doses. Yes. Common misinformation. I bet you so many people have this one. I'll say it again. High doses of CBD is better than low doses. Okay. Want to refer back to my seven steps to generate a great therapeutic cannabis experience. Someone has to have this knowledge. I'm going to share it with you now. Different needs have different answers to that question. It is not a standard across the board. That would be incorrect. As an example, if you're dealing with mood, your dosage needs to be low. If you are dealing with discomforts from pain and anxiety, your dosage can be moved up and increased as the issue is and has increased. Like, the more of that discomfort you have, you can do more of your higher dose Sleep. Same thing. Sleep has a window. So for aiding restful sleep, if you do too little, it won't work. If you do too much, it won't work. There's a window there. [00:47:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you need to. And this is again where I always tell my customers, work with it. Figure out what works for you. This is your bottle. These are your milligrams. Where did you fall? I can't go high in cbd. It doesn't do me any good. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Yup. So for this misinformation, high doses of CD B CBD are better than low doses. That is incorrect. [00:48:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Okay. Know the specifics about the therapy you're looking for, because there's different rules. Yeah, let's see here. Hey, I got another one. Then I'll let you take the next one. Minimum test levels of THC and CBD products. What do I mean by minimum test levels? Well, a lot of times somebody says, I want a THC free product. And oftentimes our industry calls that a broad spectrum. Is this truly THC free? There is a standard. It's called LOQ limit of quantitation set by the lab, usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.0 milligrams per gram. If it has THC below that number, they can't detect it. But it's not to say it's THC free. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Right? [00:49:13] Speaker B: Okay. If you go to the food industry, the amount of bugs in your cereal has an loq. They cannot test below a certain parts per million. So you could have insects in your food, but the test will say it's insect free. Okay, but the reality is it can't be. [00:49:37] Speaker A: You should not have used that analysis. That analogy is horrible. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Yeah, all the girls are going, what? All the guys are going to do. Really, dude? [00:49:48] Speaker A: Yes. So there's a lot of products out there that say they're THC free, but they're. They're my. They're probably not. Okay, okay. Do I want a heavy duty one or do I want an easy peasy one? [00:50:03] Speaker B: You. You pick. Which one do you like the most? [00:50:06] Speaker A: I'm gonna do the easy peasy one just because I feel like the other one. We've kind of already answered. [00:50:12] Speaker B: All right. [00:50:13] Speaker A: Hemp oil. Hemp seed oil and cbd. Okay, so there is no CBD in hemp seed oil. Zero. No cbd. So hemp seed oil is wonderful for cooking. You put it on your skin, it's good for your skin, but it does not have any CBD in it. It is not going to be an anti inflammatory. It is not going to be any type of an anxiety reliever. It's just. It's just hemp seed oil. That's all it is. It's the seed. And the seed has no CBD in it. [00:50:58] Speaker B: Very accurate. Very accurate. And sometimes when you. When you are misfortunate enough to purchase that product, you probably are overpaying for McDonald. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Oh. And that probably happened a lot in the beginning because people thought, oh my God, I've got 400,000 milligrams. No, you don't. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Right. Amazon was a big one for that one. One day. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:21] Speaker B: All right. CBD will make me Sleepy. Whoa, big one. CBD will make me sleepy. CBD does not have the ability to make you sleepy. It is not sedative in any way and any way at all. It simply contributes to your ECS system, which keeps your. The certain functions in your body in balance. When you are ready to go to sleep, CBD can do a fine job of helping your ECs regulate the things that help you sleep more restfully. But it by itself is not sedative and it's not psychoactive. So that means it's not going to trigger any of those receptors in your brain like THC does. So the answer to CBD will make me sleepy. It will not. But when you are sleepy, it will help you go to sleep. So people are. Are confusing that. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Right? [00:52:28] Speaker B: Because they're used to sedative sleep solutions. Don LPM is an example. It's sedative by nature, so it was designed to help you fall asleep. Get that Kickstart? [00:52:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:43] Speaker B: Like, let's sedate. Yeah. And then hopefully once you're asleep, you'll stay asleep. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:47] Speaker B: All right. So CBD will make you sleepy is incorrect. There's the last one I want to show. I want CBD and medical claims. It's a big, big void of. Full of misinformation because some people are making claims, some people are not. You see lots of discussion about not making claims. So let's talk about this. Because it is a misinformation, currently, FDA is in control of regulating the things that we consume. FDA has not regulated this product yet. Thereby, until they make that happen, we are not allowed as manufacturers and retailers to make any claims. I'm not saying it's not happening. I'm saying it's not allowed to happen. So you have some people who are abiding by that condition, and you have some people who are not. And so thereby is the huge misinformation. FDA says no claims for treatment or cure of any disease. No structure or functional health claims like a cold, flu, stuff like that. And no substitution for another approved drug. There you go. And clarity. Everything that you read, you will have to interpret for yourself. But FDA says no making claims. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Right. [00:54:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:23] Speaker A: I can't say anything. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Right. Right. Hey, listen, I'm bothered just like you are, because I want this product to get regulated. It's wonderful. It has so many benefits that I just want to encourage that this regulation, this pathway creates that ability to set up the clinical outcomes and create a regulatory foundation for this product so we can get on to what it's really good for. [00:54:53] Speaker A: So we can talk about how wonderful it is. [00:54:55] Speaker B: I know, right? All right. All right. So we have come to the end of our show. Thank you guys for listening. I hope we were helpful and making you a great consumer. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Yes. A little more comfortable. I always say your CBD should not stress you out. [00:55:11] Speaker B: Right. All right. So we have our next topic next week. We're gonna keep it in surprise but if you go to our website, you will see what it is. And so until we meet again, everybody, thanks for showing up. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Bye, everybody. Thank you for listening to the CBD Ed Show. Please join your host, Ed Chaney for another edition next Friday at 11am Pacific Time, 2pm Eastern on the Voice America Variety Channel. We can also be heard each week on the Voice America Health and Wellness Channel. Until we talk again. Enjoy the upcoming weekend and we'll be back with you soon.