How the ECS Affects Your Brain.

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome to the cbd ed show with ed chaney a cbd industry expert and business executive in this program we will discuss the uses of cbd and other methods of treatment that are alternatives but also complement conventional medicines now here's your host ed chaney welcome to the. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Cbd ed show i'm your host ed cheney and super glad to be here also welcome the beautiful kimberly rose thank. [00:00:37] Speaker B: You ed hello everyone so kimberly we. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Thought for sure we'd be running around today in our nice fall weather would you say it was gonna be one hundred five today i know we're dating the show but my goodness one hundred five today it's october we're so tired. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Of the heat here in arizona it is just it's overstaying it's welcome for. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Sure i remember one year we did costumes on halloween it was so hot we had to abandon our costumes now think through the question i think through that scenario it would be you're not going to go out with costumes on until what eight o' clock at night seven thirty something like that because you know we got kids we gotta manage to the kids so at eight thirty at night at the end of october here in arizona it was too hot to wear a costume yeah clearly too hot like i will wear a costume under most circumstances yeah but my goodness it was so hot i couldn't do. [00:01:38] Speaker B: It that evening it is weird i mean we do live in a kind of a it's very fluctuating oh because. [00:01:44] Speaker A: Next year is too cold we're like wow can i get costumes please yes. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Right it's just it's just an odd it i think it's odd weather wise. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Everywhere true true yeah well wait a minute now wait a minute i heard a statement on the radio two days ago that in september that was the hottest month ever recorded on the planet. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Oh just worldwide worldwide on the planet. [00:02:12] Speaker A: Now i heard that statement and then i heard how that person kept embellishing that and kept sensationalizing it and i'm like dude do you know how many things could have caused that and i know where he was heading he was getting all those global warming people all pumped up and literally literally there's so many scientific things that would have moved that month from august to september at the drop of a needle i was i'm like oh my goodness really well that is talking about how that is. [00:02:49] Speaker B: The world these days right yeah let's let's embellish and over global warming thank goodness for cbd we can't we really i mean there's nothing let's see that is affected by does does weather affect the crop growing for hemp i don't. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Think so right well yeah no that's a very very very question that crop is so tolerant yeah is probably the right answer of course all crops will be affected by seasonality but that crop is one of the more tolerable more robust tolerant crops out there that's good yeah yeah well hey let's i know that was our that was our enjoyment kind of having fun talking with each other but let's get to the subject of today's show which is the effects of the ecs on the brain we started this last show the that direction though was the ecs and how it was contributing to age related issues throughout the whole body correct right that you know all these all these issues you have to deal with once you've surpassed sixty years old you know these are anyway that show was around that well through some of that research we wanted to also come back and then discuss just in general the ecs system and its impact on the brain isolating it with just the brain not talking about the entire body because hey the ecs system is very grandeur it covers so much it's so dynamic it's so i'll say intense it has so many many so it has an impact on so many systems in our human body yeah and it's because it's a modulatory system it was designed to go oh hey you need an adjustment let me adjust this up and that down and boom you're back you're okay again and at the same time it has one hundred different systems that it can do that. [00:04:57] Speaker B: To yeah which is again i i think i said it the first time we started discussing the ecs system what a crazy like if you made a movie just think of like a movie right yeah or i think of it like an ant giant ant hill like where there's just all these little worker bees just working working working doing their thing and you we don't even know that all of this is going on of it yeah no idea right until things start to maybe fall apart a little bit and then you're like oh wow why does that hurt oh what what's happening yeah yeah isn't that amazing it's crazy that there's a whole village doing its thing inside our body isn't. [00:05:38] Speaker A: It it's almost like when you become aware it is like a aha moment it's an epiphany yeah and like this whole thought process opens up you know i it's it's incredible to get there i encourage anybody who keeps an eye on our show really attempt to grasp the coolness of the ecs i know. [00:06:05] Speaker B: And it's so funny so because i think when i was in the teenage years or whatever those people were called like granola you know they were you know they were like hippies and but now i'm thinking oh my goodness like i it it is important to drink water it is important to eat the right food it is you know it just because you gotta help that little farm that's in your body working yeah you know and so if you don't help it doesn't have enough tools to take care of everything going on in. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Your body and sometimes those tools get old and not as effective sure right which is a little bit about today's conversation too it's you know hey there is this great impact that the ecs has on the brain and we should always be aware much like we discovered in our previous show that that impact over time can be altered by the age related degeneration of certain components yeah right harder to modulate them if all parts aren't working the way they used to right there's a stress put in. [00:07:16] Speaker B: System right yeah well i'm sure again your system is just like well it is us right and so when we're when we're perfect well maybe not as yes he does still runs around like a sixteen year old but a lot of us are like oh yeah i can't really do that anymore oh i you know that was a little bit harder so our system basically is us going hey help just give me a little bit of help and i did ask ed a question when we were going through all of this does the brain control the ecs system and that. [00:07:53] Speaker A: Was such a profound question like i was i i answered it but now i want to answer it again because that was just the best question on the planet and here's even an adjustment to the answer i said no in the beginning i said no the ecs system manages the brain but then i backed up and i said the ecs is a modulatory system for the brain it sees something that's out of whack and it adjusts it up it regulates something else something up and something else down and goes there you go you're back into balance but now that you've asked that question again the brain does manage and here's why every cell in your body including your brain has the ability to be very aware of its surrounding and based on its observation it has a signaling system to say i need right so the the honest answer to the question is the brain does then trigger the ecs system okay to help it modulate and get itself back into homeostasis well wow terrific question i just heard that answer that was outstanding i'm using that again well if you. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Think about it i mean we don't we all think that our brain think haha the brain is in control pretty much right that' that's how it wants you to think it wants you to think i'm the boss and oh no. [00:09:25] Speaker A: Wait now now you're talking conscience no your brain is not in charge of conscience it wants to be but yeah. [00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah yeah so funny yeah i was just and i did a post i did an ecs series on the cannonfield facebook maybe even yes instagram also on how the different like the brain and the ecs your musculoskeletal muscular skeletal system. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Yeah which is brain bone and joints. [00:09:53] Speaker B: Yeah and so yeah anyway i'm going to get off my my tirade here we're talking about the brain and the. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Ecs system but anybody who wants kimberly's perspective on components that make up the ecs system or the systems ecs manages she does come at it from more like the rest of the world wants to see it where i get way scientific down under the yeah i'm i'm sciency that was a very nice way to put my nerdy perspective okay so what we wanted to share today is that we see that it is obvious that the impact that the ecs system has on managing the brain to homeostasis has not only been around since the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen is when i started seeing a lot of these documents accumulating in peer review platforms remember i only go there and they're more so even now so it's obvious it's heading into a direction that the ecs system is more important than anybody ever thought and before that then what normally happens is the that that all those studies on the ecs it will then start driving solution driven efficacies okay right how how do we make it not perform incorrectly or how do we optimize it and then from that solutions or i e medicines will follow i would love. [00:11:46] Speaker B: It if we could somehow figure out how to like stop it or or you know what i mean slow it down significantly so that like we said last week one out of six people on this planet are going to be over sixty five in year twenty fifty and you know we we we have to figure out how to make that a pleasant last end of your life as opposed to you know very unpleasant. [00:12:19] Speaker A: Right so and and i agree and because she was a part of us digging up all this information i'll go a little bit further and explain what she's talking about as you move into your later years this is supposed to be the golden years for you how sucky is it if you have alzheimer's. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah i can't imagine right so and. [00:12:43] Speaker A: That'S neurodegenerate degeneration that potentially could have been affected by the ecs system if dealt with early enough right all right not conclusive and as i read some of this stuff today you'll likely see but you also see some wisdom in here that says but let's check this out well no there's even a bigger but than even that don't you think. [00:13:10] Speaker B: That'S what scientists are thinking like oh okay so that's what happened in that test so how about if we take it over in this area and look at it this way right yeah so. [00:13:22] Speaker A: I brought a couple articles today and i did some snapshots on how many articles are out there you know some just kind of some overview of where clinical is going in this direction of the ecs impact on the brain okay okay and so one of the articles you know it was a recent one october twenty first by the neuro neurogetics nutrition and brain health it was a reviewed article ecs is an important brain modulatory network all right so in this article they didn't suggest it likely would be or could be they said it is an important brain modulatory network and so as i state a couple of the pieces i pulled out of there i thought kim if if you have anything you want to share from any personal experience just go for it if i don't hear i'll just kind of read through this i am taking words right out of this study okay so i gave you the study's name it was posted on frontiers platform anyway cbd presents promising therapeutic effects of the brain known to reduce brain damage associated with neurodegenerative or ischemic conditions it also had positive effects on attenuating psychotic anxiety and depressive like behaviors all right so a lot of that has been known but here we are still stating this and a clinical review that's you know two years old yeah by the way i can repeat the same statement from a review i pulled up in twenty sixteen yeah isn't that funny that was the one that got me the most you've been saying this now for four eight four six six years yeah that right seven years you've been saying this now for seven years eight years and how far have we gotten well i agree with you ed our hands are still tied because our regulatory and legal climate has not changed they still are not allowing us to study this which is. [00:15:41] Speaker B: Just so crazy that we are still. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Here all right so there is a growing interest to reveal novel active compounds in the pharmaceutical pharmaceutical field to improve health and longevity of the elderly population now in this particular context they're looking for novel compounds in pharmaceuticals now again they are looking for this is remember the article the article is the ecs being a modulatory system of the brain all right disturbances in the ecs homeostasis have already been observed and cerebral areas associated with parkinson's disease pathology in humans as well as in animal models already been observed that an upset in the homeostasis is observed in those models with parkinson's disease all right homeostasis upset who is the one system in your body who is in charge of your homeostasis. [00:17:00] Speaker B: The ecs system all right treatment with. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Cbd also enhances neuroprotection both in vitro and in vivo so both in studies inside the body and outside the body again they didn't say could they said. [00:17:17] Speaker B: It does. [00:17:19] Speaker A: You know i'm reading little tidbits for you guys just just cbd and thc have demonstrated neuroprotective and chronically treated mice showing improvements in memory task and a decrease in solubility levels of this enzyme and several neuroinflammation markers so and an animal study they were able. [00:17:48] Speaker B: To demonstrate these items does does anybody there's still no human no testing yeah. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Not a whole lot of human trials i think they're able to look at pathologies in humans with diseases and try to make some educated conclusions but clinical trials on humans are still on hold as far as i am aware yeah essay also cbd alone prevented the development of social recognition deficit in some animal models all right what are these last two talking about the most memory loss. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah so they're just putting so they're talking about how cbd goes in and helps the ecs system with these certain. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah functions yeah so yeah so now that you said that then i'll read the statement over again and hopefully there and because that was one of the objectives here was to try to connect the dots here yeah with what they're talking about and some of these reviewed articles and studies and relate them to what we all experience in our daily living can we kind of see the connection between the two for some of us maybe that's an area of excitement wow there's something coming okay or some might go you know my parents are suffering right now but you know it's important to me that something's on the. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Horizon right and i think one of the thing that one of the things that we established way back when if if you're talking about the brain and like anxiety and all of those issues that go on in the brain you're not talking about an enormous amount of cbd no you don't need that much it's just a small dose on a daily basis that will keep you in. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Homeostasis that is so clear so so inexpensive i think for an over over the counter use of a cbd formula to help the brain stay in homeostasis you might spend thirty dollars a month. [00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah if because could you even say it could be an isolate it could be a broad spectrum or would you. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Still suggest clinical clinical still uses full spectrum products and the majority of the reviews i've read okay they have moved off cbd isolates a long time ago and i've not now they just they use the word cbd so i don't know if they're making a distinction anymore maybe because they've completely removed the cbd isolate from their study okay i'm making an observation by the way because i've been reading these clinical studies for five years now right right and i can see some obvious trends coming and going as i've done that because i mean right sometimes this is a weekly activity yes i know so trust me it would be easy to see trends with that type of recurrence of reviewing clinical anyway it has a statement here although the current findings do not validate a direct effect of the cannabinoid based medicine and memory or cognitive and dementia patients alzheimer's patients other symptoms might be alleviated using this approach remember i told you there was a statement earlier that they said although we don't have valid results there are other things we do have valid results that are alleviating the symptoms the symptoms yeah so interesting that that they made that statement don't you think so they've not come to conclusive about the disease but symptoms they have some. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Data yeah i i mean again we always say cbd is not something that's going to cure a situation but it's going to help right with the situation in many different ways not just the. [00:22:11] Speaker A: One i even want to say that the majority would of people out there with their current knowledge would agree with that statement but i'm going to challenge you and them cbd was never set as a cure ever it has no curing potential to simply has the ability to support and activate a system that has the ability to do just what you just said right isn't that a it's kind of a relieving understanding because everybody keeps saying why is cbd so good for everything it's not really good for everything it's the one that it just drives a system that is good for everything right yeah so sometimes that's very helpful to see the difference between those two so that you kind of get your head around it right yeah yeah or might be nerdy no i. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Think i think honestly i think a lot of people are you know they want a cure yeah yeah and. [00:23:15] Speaker A: I. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Mean can help with a lot of. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Things see yeah and i'm not suggesting that it's not too as as powerful as i felt it was a minute ago right right i just know that sometimes looking at it at a perspective that is that way can be more it can help you understand it better right anyway but you know she hasn't kicked me under the table so i must be getting too nerdy data from mice suggest that treatment with cb one receptor antagonist what that means is the cannabinoids that are attracted to the cb one receptor might restore memory capacity in animals administered with a beta amyloid which is things that would interact and disturb memory that lead let the memory disturbance i'm sorry i'll say that again because i intersected you interrupted yourself so data from mice suggests that treatments with cb one receptor antagonists might restore memory capacity and animals administered with beta amyloid fragments that led to memory disturbance anyway so things that were capable of breaking their memories they noticed that cannabinoids that could affect the cb one receptors were able to restore that memory taken together a growing number of studies have demonstrated beneficial effects of the ecs activation which has proven an excellent target for the treatment of neurodegenerative disease reducing significant system symptoms and improving the well being in these individuals i believe i took that statement from their conclusive statement at the end. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Of their okay taken together with a pharmaceutical taken together with tcbd with thc. [00:25:05] Speaker A: No taken together a growing number of studies oh i bringing them all together have demonstrated beneficial effects of the ecs activation right which has proven excellent an excellent target for the treatment of neurodegenerative disease reducing significant symptoms and improving wellbeing so think about what they said the benefits of the ecs and activating its activation has been proven to be the right area to go in for these. [00:25:39] Speaker B: Issues perfect all right gotcha all right. [00:25:42] Speaker A: And how do we activate our ecs through cannabinoids yes both endo and ec and phyto yes your body makes endocannabinoids plant makes phytocannabinoids both of them have the ability to modulate or to to send or move signals from the transmitter to the receiver gotcha yeah cool all right all righty now let's let's talk just for a minute where her and i are gaining some really i'm really becoming connected to this we're becoming connected this in a couple of different ways one is we're aging ourselves yes we are now it's not that we're feeling a lot of these things but we certainly see our parents going through these particular pieces and we also see our friends discovering the same thing with their parents right so it's just becoming closer to us i'm sure would we feel these issues when we're young teenagers twenty year olds probably not maybe i don't. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Know i don't think so because of course at that age you're invincible there's nothing wrong everything's great i feel great i get up i run around i do all my stuff yeah and as you age you realize that you're just not maybe you know i mean i think when you go to a room and you can't remember what you were going there for i think that's just too much activity going on in the brain not really a sign of you know as some sort of degenerate selective degeneration going on it's now selective yeah i would agree that's what i tell myself anyway but is that a sign of some things yeah starting it actually. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Could just be you know i've learned over the years that nope not interested not interested i see it but i don't see it all right anyway well let me keep going because i know we have a break coming up so that has really driven kim and i to take a look around and then we started to do that both in our own family members and then we have a lot of assisted living we live in scottsdale arizona so a lot of assisted living centers a lot of aging population population we became aware of some of their struggles and that led us not only to educate ourselves in this area but also to formulate and try to help these these communities and we come back we'll come we're going to share what we actually saw and yeah sometimes it's heartbreaking it often is yeah i'll just say it that way because you would be correct and i'll tell you before i go on to the break because i have a few more clinical reviews and studies to share but i did go on to google scholar and i typed in the google search and google scholar so again i'm only going to get relevant stuff that's not sales related right anyway and i put in there the ecs system impact on on neural age degenerative related items so and i got i got two million three hundred seventy thousand results first of all and some of the titles on the first page were age related inflammatory cytokines and disease where do cytokines come from ecs system triggering them to be produced i got one here and cxc chemo cytokines generate age related increase and neutrophil mediated brain inflammation and blood brain barrier breakdown i've got whole body senescent remember we really spent a lot of time on senescent last week whole body senescent cell clearance alleviates age related brain inflammation and cognitive impairment in mice transgenic mice and show age related cognitive deficits associated with discrete brain amyloid deposition and inflammation age related immune alterations and cebrovascular inflammation i pro inflammatory cytokines age and age related disease there is so much going on on this subject that i would like to share with everybody that i think there's some great things. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Coming yeah it sounds like it i don't know my ecsm system told the brain stop listening i don't know was that one run on sentence okay yes. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Well only because you know we're running the break time now so but wow guys i was one of i don't know two hundred thousand pages yeah that was one page of well it's very. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Promising it feels like it's very promising that somebody well it sounds like many people are having the aha moment that we have been having for like the. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Last few years yes and there are so many people that care everybody's you know we always think everybody's just out to make their buck but in this particular area i see a lot of people that just care and i think it's because if their parents their family. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Members right well it's and it's also interesting that you know we went from it might help it kind of might help you know what it was further studies needed all those words that we've been reading about seeing for years and now it's like nope yep it's true. [00:31:51] Speaker A: It'S happening all right good point very good point okay all right let's take a short break and we come back we're going to talk a little bit more about some of the other findings and then connect some dots especially as we were out in the environment out at some of these assisted livings out talking to the caretakers and i'm sorry the caregivers in those communities just to kind of get a picture of how these two are starting to come together and why there's a shift in this clinical perspective this area and what it means to us all right so we're gonna take a break and when we come back we're gonna send all that your way so we'll be right back follow voice america at facebook dot com voiceamerica for juicy updates from your favorite radio shows and podcasts live authentically heal. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Naturally with canafil we have three unique blends for pain relief reducing stress and. 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[00:34:47] Speaker B: You are tuned in to the cbd ed show if you have a question that you'd like addressed on a future episode of our program please send an email to info at the cbdedshow dot com that's info at the cbd edshow dot com now back to the cbd ed show hey welcome back. [00:35:08] Speaker A: Listening to cbd ed show let's keep talking about about the ucs system's impact on the brain and really trying to connect the dots what does that mean to us what does that mean to the population what does that mean to the growing aging population that's where we're going to pick up on now is. [00:35:25] Speaker B: That part well i mean it it should really be interesting to everyone because we're all going to age this is a good point we're already at an age so i mean if you don't think it's important at this moment it really should be something that you just think about anyway yeah and not that. [00:35:49] Speaker A: We want to be debbie downers we're not wanting to get anybody oh my god what's coming it is still all about quality of life up until and that's really all there is to it and when you're young as kim spoke you're invincible but you are aware that your parents are going to go through something it wouldn't be great if you could help i think most want to be in that position yeah and vice versa if you are the parent maybe you want to be less of a burden yeah to you to the people that are your loved ones that are around you right so it doesn't always have to be a debbie downer thing it's just there is this awareness that's going to happen and i think there's some cool stuff coming the i i thought i would share then maybe a few points from a another recent study that i had pulled up called the therapeutic potential of the endocannabinoid system just in case everybody know ucs and age related disease and and in its intro paragraph it said it is well established that the endocannon system is involved in the modulation in various physiological processes such as memory pain cognitive temperature mood feeding and pregnancy okay so well established yeah all right they also said the ecs also plays a major role in several physiopathological conditions due to its ability to modulate various underlying mechanisms for example a neuromodulatory effect induced by the ecs was recently described in neurodegenerative disorders such as alzheimer's and parkinson's disease okay so just kind of setting groundwork at the beginning of this study to indicate listen there's already some data here there was a table here that i'll read the definition of the table it just caught my attention and this was i think this was like forty eight pages or fifty pages of content the most important modulators of cannabinoid receptors their mechanisms of action and the main findings in various experimental models okay so again there is this table and in this table the most important receptors the mechanism of action and then the main finding are you ready yes all right so of them all there was about thirty or forty of them this one drew my attention to share the cb one antagonist inverse antagonist and the cbd partial antagonist what they're talking about are the cannabinoids that are attracted to the cb one and the cb two and the one and that one cannabinoid that is opposed to the cb one okay okay so that's the cannabinoids they're talking about and by the way they're all cannabinoids that can be found in the plant the implant all right so now let's talk about then the mechanisms of action what they will actually create to to do something alzheimer's disease mouse models rat models of neuropathic pain epilepsy mice models and parkinson's disease rat models okay so these were the mechanisms of action and here's the main findings reversed cognitive deficits in object recognition memory and social recognition memory reversed confident reversed cognitive deficits yeah that's great all. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Right i mean that feels like that's already a winner. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I love sharing it modulates chronic and neuropathic pain and depression specific behaviors a third reduces seizure and associated behavioral comorbidities and then finally neuroprotective and symptomatic effects yeah okay so this was again just a table that i wanted to share it said recent evidence advocates that the cbd two receptor play a pivotal role in the reduction of progression the reduction of progression of neurodegenerative disorders such as multiple sclerosis alzheimer's and parkinson's disease and then finally cannabinoid and chronic inflammation chronic inflammation and subsequent alterations of the immune system that occur with advanced aging cannabinoids having an impact on chronic inflammation so maybe those are some highlights that i pulled out of you again from this study called the therapeutic potential of the endocannabinoid system and age related diseases now so when we started digging into the well if the ecs has this much of an impact on age related issues then let's go discover this some more let's go look into this further instead of just being what would you call this victim to it right yeah just crap crap yeah our parents aren't going to remember me anymore right so actually wanting to do something about it and i think the trigger for that catalyst for that is when we were invited by one of our team members to look into the assisted living centers and here's what we went so we go into these assisted living centers they're wonderfully set up they're beautiful right but they do have to control them that the the patients that well they were patients but they you would say they're patients but they're they're actually they're actually residents okay all right so that's really important to distinguish the two like one of them we walked in there would be cats running up and down the hall yeah it's because that resident had a cat and you know they have end times interacting but they're assisted this is a facility where there is caregivers for each and every one. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Of those people in there right so these people are at the level where they might need some care they don't need constant care i think that just. [00:42:40] Speaker A: Some care correct that is accurate now so now but if you think about that this is a business model so this business model has to keep their residents safe so they have to also scrutinize what comes in scrutinize the behavior of the of its residents i mean there's a lot of moving pieces here right sure so one of the things we discovered is those who were suffering with age related neurodegeneration were just quietly suffering and suffering wow and they weren't the only ones suffering their children were suffering because their children equally did not know what to do right but witnessed the suffering some of them were treating with alcohol that was probably the most predominant that we saw for self medication and by the way this is somewhat tolerated by some of the centers we went into some were treating with thc yes again not as tolerate tolerated by the sinners that we were in yeah but never that nevertheless they were tolerating what are they doing there self medicating this is my escape this is how i what i i don't even like thinking about it right what is going through their mind is well this is not getting any better right yeah anyway and so the frustration i told you from the resident the frustration from the children that are still in the picture and then finally the frustration from the caregivers themselves they want to be able to take care of them and some of that is obstructed by behavioral decline sundowning alzheimer's dementia or different forms of dementia these are all getting in the. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Way of their treatment yeah because i mean you don't i don't want to say there's nothing wrong with them because there is something wrong there is something happening right but it's not like a it is a medical condition but it's not treated like a you know what i mean it and there's stages of it there's not so you know so it's just it's kind of this weird gray area where these people need help but where can you go if you especially if you don't want to try a pharmaceutical which i don't even know if a pharmaceutical helps in a situation maybe like an antidepressant or something yeah. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Yeah they're out there but there's there's other problematic situations with the aging who have maybe declines in other areas yeah right other other organs that may have an impact of the issues the side effects of whatever that medication is or just a psychological position of i don't want to take a pharmaceutical and so a lot of that out there yeah. [00:45:45] Speaker B: So we're we try and suggest maybe some cbd would help of course there's red tape red tape everywhere in those facilities but i i think it would be a great ass asset to be able to i mean if my parent was there well we all know the whole family's on cbd i know all. [00:46:10] Speaker A: The way down dogs where are you going is exactly what the children of these of these residents in these assisted living centers they're doing the exact same. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Thing so keep going yeah i i would want i would say hey i this is what my mother needs or my father to you know help in this situation and i i if you. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Could see the look on kim's face right now that's the same distressed look. [00:46:36] Speaker B: We were seeing right you just because you know we've all been told and we tell all of our every listener on this show for many years now don't be afraid to say what you want in in as far as cbd goes yeah and everybody still has that little bit of a stigma right it's. [00:46:57] Speaker A: Still there well let me share with you what what we discovered so we certainly discovered that that there was a ton of anxiety coming from the kids yeah a ton of it they felt like they were almost as as restrained as the the residents their parents themselves like their hands were tied on what they were able to do all right so they're putting pressure on the facilities facilities begging almost saying and this is what the facilities are telling us especially the caregivers going please allow my mama my dad to have this please allow them right so that was that was an observation i was making i am already already made the observation and shared it that they're using other things to self medicaid like alcohol and thc whether it's tolerated or not maybe there's a social issue with them both right it's just not a perfect situation either and the awareness of the capabilities of t eight of cannabinoids like cbd whether that be through these studies whether that be through the general and social conversations being had over the last twelve months it is the door is opening the door is opening and such a way that the clinical that the i'm sorry the caregivers in these facilities are going to the administration and the administrations are going to the equity holders yeah the principals right and all of them are saying the same thing hey you going to either kick this person out because they're drinking or smoking too much or you're going to honor the family and let us start giving them cannabinoids and it's going all the way up the line. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Yeah yeah yeah i mean i fairly. [00:48:53] Speaker A: New this is six months i have. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Had a few a few customers not a lot but a few most of my customers for elderly are fixated more on pain and inflammation but i have had a few customers that and it's the children that come in and say my mother is or my father is and he's here what do you have here that i can take back to the facility facility and show them to. [00:49:23] Speaker A: The facility and show the facility will. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Either a okay it yep or not and then i'm going to come back and get what i need to get and it sometimes they come back and sometimes i i think maybe they just the facility said no way it's not. [00:49:42] Speaker A: Happening yeah because you know that's generally a general rule of business from the principals is i don't want anything taken from me once i've built it and if cannabis because they just see they don't see cbd they see they don't see hemp and marijuana they see cannabis there's a problem with it i could get in trouble i could lose my license i could i could and they have a responsibility to keep the business safe from harm and stuff like that. [00:50:14] Speaker B: So yeah because it is insurance is. [00:50:16] Speaker A: Medic insurance big deal all those things yes yes but the cool thing is is you're not seeing everybody not come back and we're also seeing the same thing we're not seeing the door closed anymore the door is opening and those who who are you just see a bit of relief yeah across their faces right so i love where that is going and i'll tell you another place they have there is a lot more invitations for joining a meeting with the residents and their their the people that who put them in there whether it be their siblings or not so they normally will have monthly meetings well they're bringing in cbd consultations into those meetings now yeah that's so to allow the then the patient to make the decision but we spoke with one who says yeah we're considering even allowing that to be in our convenience store little customer purchase environment so but i guess you know they have to make sure certain obstacles are are not going to create. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Bigger problems right i think some of the biggest questions that my customers come in with is so like what how would how do you do this and how you know because for some reason people are still fairly unaware of cbd and i say well oh my goodness so you can it what do you think your parent would be comfortable with yeah a capsule a gummy an oil a water soluble that you just they just put in their morning juice or whatever you know it's there's so many different forms now that it doesn't have to be the oil because most of them say i don't think she could open the bottle i don't think she could i don't think you know all those things so there's so many different forms to it now and i think. [00:52:30] Speaker A: That you you brought up a great step and please feel free to listen to our show right before this because we actually give you a kind of a a series of things to consider to be able to move on a decision like this but you're right the first one is is where would they be comfortable with and then speak to the facility itself and go what is needed for me to bring to you to be able to have this conversation of can i bring this product to my mother's or father's room now but we are still neural so let's let's let's stay in neural for just one more moment here it seemed the obvious conclusion of today's show revealing all the clinical studies and reviews and through all the discussions we've had the impact of homeostasis to your brain has the ability to affect age related problems not just age related problems how about problems related to parkinson's alzheimer's and other neurodegenerative disorders and other other psychotic orders like depressions and stuff so homeostasis has the ability to impact this according to a majority of the studies i have read right and if in fact that is so the question might be how to best achieve homeostasis what does the ecs system. [00:54:07] Speaker B: Want and there's many ways listen there's many ways like we talk about good diet we talk about exercising we talk about all those things that your body loves and and and feels better after you do right your homeostasis is kicked in your body's going oh this is so wonderful look at all this great food i got i got some water right you're exercising your your mental it. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Does all that help with does how does that help with in your i'm i'm interested in how you answer this question all those things so diet exercise positive thinking how does all that help your brain be in a state of. [00:54:51] Speaker B: Homeostasis well because if you're not if you're again calm and you're doing all those things and you're doing all the right things you're not introducing a lot of bad energy and food and all the things that we do a lot and your your your system your ecs system doesn't have so much to work on it can concentrate on the good things it can if it's trying to put this fire out and that fire out and i got that and i got this and i take fifty pills yes it it just it's so far. [00:55:29] Speaker A: Behind it can't do it ecs system wants to modulate you till you get to homeostasis the more difficult you make that the harder it has the work and the harder it has the work the more you have to feed it cannabinoids well and that's no or fido i don't care but that's what that's the system you just you just explained it in a very very friendly way. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Yeah and also again if if it's so busy and there's a fire going off over here in left field and it's so busy over here in right field and you not get taken care of over there so it all is. [00:56:09] Speaker A: Important yeah all right well listen i wish we had more time but i think we did a pretty good job delivering today's topic effects of the ecs on the brain yeah again i say you go online anytime you want google some of these report give google some of these studies try to stay away from the nonsense of people just trying to sell their products and i think you'll form a similar conclusion so listen i want to thank everyone for listening to us today we really love you all kim and i are always trying to reach for our our best health possible so this is it this is. [00:56:44] Speaker B: Kim and this is ed and we're. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Out. [00:56:53] Speaker B: Thank you for listening to the cbd ed show please join your host ed chaney for another edition next friday at eleven am pacific time two pm eastern on the voice america variety channel we can also be hear each week on the voice america health and wellness channel until we talk again enjoy the upcoming weekend and we'll be back with you soon.