With CBD Classified as a Dietary Supplement, What’s Possible?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome to the CBD Ed show with Ed Chaney, a CBD industry expert and business executive. In this program, we will discuss the uses of CBD and other methods of treatment that are alternatives but also complement conventional medicines. Now here's your host, Ed Janey. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Welcome to the CBD Ed Show. I'm your host, Ed Chaney here with the beautiful Kimberly Rose. [00:00:32] Speaker C: Hello, everyone. Thank you, Ed. That was very nice. [00:00:36] Speaker A: Always. It's always my pleasure, Kimberly. I think we're going to have a fun show today because again, we get to give you what our perspective is going to, what we believe is going to happen once CBD becomes freed. And when we mean freed, we mean Congress is going to then place it as a dietary supplement, removing it from the marijuana plant. So the marijuana plant will still be something that the legal environment in the US will need to deal with, but CBD will no longer be. And the bill reads CBD and hemp derived products, which include more than health because then other, other things, environmental products will come up, industrial products will come out. [00:01:34] Speaker C: Yeah. I always wonder why that side of the industry never really has taken off. I mean, I know it's coming out, but things. The hemp plant just does so much more than just provide cbd. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Right. [00:01:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:54] Speaker A: And I can tell you why. Although hemp is federally legal, states are still just kind of like, I'll say cuckoos about it. [00:02:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Like, oh, so there's some gray area here. Some are probably taking advantage of it. Some don't know what to do with it. Some are like, well, our system works right now, so let's not. Right. But once all that gets freed up, the driver will then be industry. The industry is going to say, okay, what's my capital cost to get my tooling, my machinery, my whatever, what is that cost going to take? And then what is my ROI going to be? What is the reduced expenses or operating, you know, all those numbers that it might trim down. [00:02:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:46] Speaker A: And one of them will be bio waste. And there's. Oh, there's just so many. [00:02:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I have a whole list. [00:02:52] Speaker A: And the consumers will look at manufacturers and alike and go, we appreciate what you're doing. Thank you very much. Our children can grow in a better, a better environment. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Right. And you know, and the thing is is that again, the government did a great job of demonizing this plant. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Ain't that true? [00:03:13] Speaker C: I think this is going to be one of those things where our kids, maybe even our kids, kids say, God, do you believe that this was not, I mean, this was taken away. I Know, from all of us for so long, and it could have done so much good. And I mean, we're catching up. We're back to where we were. What do you think? Like the 1950s, where it was booming, starting to take a role, and then the War on drugs hit and it just got shoved right back. [00:03:47] Speaker A: That's right. From the 90s on. Bye. See you later. [00:03:50] Speaker C: Right. [00:03:51] Speaker A: So. But, and you know, this time, this spot between the 90s and today really is a pretty small space and time, you know, for the history of mankind. So even in the industrial history of mankind. So I think this is one of those where, oh, maybe we shouldn't have done it that way. And then it was just difficult to unravel it. [00:04:13] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:04:14] Speaker A: I mean, that's what it looks like to me. And. [00:04:16] Speaker C: And for whatever reason, back then, they couldn't. It was easier to just swoop up the whole plant, of course, as opposed to try and separate it. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Right, right. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. [00:04:30] Speaker C: And now look at how long it's going to take to separate them. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's been years. [00:04:34] Speaker C: Years. We have been saying it's on the way. No, it's not. It's on the way. [00:04:39] Speaker A: I know. Isn't that. I'm pretty sure our listeners like. Yeah, we're not listening to you on this one either. Forget it. Well, we're excited again, Congress decided to take it upon themselves and not then solicit FDA's views or just not solicit their requirements. It wasn't any more than. Okay, well, if you don't know how to carve that pathway out, why don't we just do that and then you, you can go back to what you know how to do now that it has been listed as a dietary supplement, you already have a pathway. [00:05:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:16] Speaker A: And then we can get back to regulating this product and making it safe for the population, which is exactly what that was supposed to be. [00:05:26] Speaker C: Right. Because, I mean, you can kind of understand FDA and DEA going, but wait a minute, you don't want to release the harmful parts. [00:05:36] Speaker A: Yes, of course. [00:05:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:38] Speaker A: See, and I think that's what separates us from a lot of our peers is we do see both sides of the stories. [00:05:44] Speaker C: Sure. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not that. It's always. [00:05:46] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, we have children. We don't. [00:05:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:49] Speaker C: We're not looking to release something into the world that could be harmful. [00:05:54] Speaker A: No, I would 100% agree with you. Hey, if we didn't know in detail the real history of this product that goes back 30,000 years that has very well documentation 3,000 years ago. So if we didn't know that we'd probably be a little suspicious. [00:06:16] Speaker C: Sure. [00:06:16] Speaker A: Like some of the products we've seen in our even recent lifetime. Yeah. A lot of plant based products have hit the market. [00:06:29] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think it's great. Well, yes, there are some that, you know, there's always going to be a wishy washy. [00:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:36] Speaker C: I mean but then there's also the ones that have legitimate benefits. And so I think it's great that the world is starting to go away from chemicals and more on an unnatural alternative. [00:06:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. [00:06:58] Speaker C: Again, I think our kids, kids will be. So it'll be one of those things like the, the dial up modem or whatever that was back then. Right. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Dial up Internet. Wow. [00:07:13] Speaker C: Do you remember that? Everybody took like Advil and that's no more because it's a chemical. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Let's have fun with this then. So we're going to speak today on three areas that we believe will be most impacted. And that's with today's current knowledge. We definitely know health is going to be impacted. We know environment is going to get impacted tremendously too. [00:07:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:41] Speaker A: Like the amount of things that we're going to share with you that have the ability to correct some of the wrongs that we've done with our environment. And you'll see how easily hemp can do that. [00:07:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:55] Speaker A: And then the third one will be industrial. So when we talk about industrial like you know, construction and paper and biofuels, stuff like that. So these are the areas that we all, you know, we've done some of the homework for you and we can't. And because this likely is going to happen very soon, you know, you can kind of get a sneak peek into how we see the world's going to start changing. Certainly here in the US we already see the writing on the wal. [00:08:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. In other countries they're probably a little farther advanced than we are because they did not have. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah. We, we went to do some packaging for some, some offshore accounts and we, we stumbled into how much effort and, and the, the real concerns of plastic the world has. And the United States is really not anywhere near. [00:09:00] Speaker C: Yeah, we're way far behind. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Yeah. They were like, do not send me plastic. And what's this white, you know, glossy covered box look like? Hey, I want Kraft paper. Where is Kraft paper? And it really made us feel good. [00:09:14] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be nice if we could move to that here because we thought. [00:09:19] Speaker A: We were sustainable, but the reality is we Have a lot more. We have a lot more to go. A lot to go before we are sustainable. When I look at the globe as a whole. So that was a nice experience this year. That will be 20, 23. Look back and go, oh, yeah, that's what we learned. So let's start talking about health. So we go over health. We're looking, you know, and all the areas of health, we're thinking about that daily wellness, we're talking about medicinal, we're talking about clinical studies. Like, nobody would really consider even think about that. But we know intimately that clinical studies have had their hands tied for the last eight years. They have not been able to do. There's not a single human trial. [00:10:19] Speaker C: No. Well, we had the one little one with the doctor, remember? And the kids. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But I don't know if that classified as a human trial. [00:10:27] Speaker C: No. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Yep. So, although. Yeah. So I applaud all their efforts, but they're just running into a brick wall. They get to a certain point and, oh, crap, we can't go any farther. [00:10:40] Speaker C: Right. [00:10:41] Speaker A: And even if they could, what's the value? So you're going to have an entity that's going to spend 2.7 million to pull off one of these type of human trials that are capable of meeting with approval, regulatory approvals, and then they still can't do anything. Yeah, yeah. [00:11:00] Speaker C: Right. [00:11:01] Speaker A: So. Oh, my God. Just wait until this gets freed, and then you will really see the magic of what's possible relating to health. And the hemp plant. [00:11:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:16] Speaker A: The cannabinoids found in the hemp plant. There are 120 cannabinoids in there, and we know very little, about 112 of them. [00:11:25] Speaker C: Right. [00:11:27] Speaker A: I mean, we know the primaries, of course, and we know a lot of the smaller cannabinoids, but not very many. I mean, so guess what? That will be wide open. [00:11:40] Speaker C: Great. That'll be really nice. Because that's really. I, I'm moved by that part, the health and the wellness part. The other part, of course, that's very important and wonderful. But if we can actually find something. Well, we have found something that the public will accept as safe. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:04] Speaker C: You. You don't have to rely on the. All those other things that you are taking. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:11] Speaker C: Multiple of. [00:12:12] Speaker A: On a regular basis without the real understanding of its implications. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Right. [00:12:18] Speaker A: I think you bring this up. And I'm going to bring it up today again because it's important. NSAIDs that are over the counter. [00:12:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:25] Speaker A: It is so easy to just go grab them. I was speaking with a physician just a Couple of days ago. And the population in a whole here in the United States has just got resistant to pain. I mean, resistant to being uncomfortable. Uncomfortable. We don't want it. And so we will. And we've gotten into this pattern. Well, we know where hemp stands on that. We know where CBD stands on that. It doesn't have the current. That the side effects aren't matching the side effects of NSAIDs. I know that for sure. The, the. So just those everyday products are going to be huge. Let's take a couple other ones. How about alcohol? You and I are discovering something very unique in 2023. And that is an understanding of. Well, we, we've always known alcohol was difficult on the body, especially if you consume large amounts of it. And why does one consume large amounts? They're usually chasing something. Because alcohol, although it feels like a stimulant, is not. It's a depressant. Well, what if you had something that intervened with it and could cut off the chasing part? You could still enjoy the stimulant part of an alcohol by only wanting the one or two as opposed to. I got to keep chasing this because the depressive part's kicking in. I need more stimuli. And there you are two in the morning and you are. What do they call that? Not obsessive drinking, but you know what I mean, Chronic drinking. [00:14:07] Speaker C: Oh, I don't know. You're in a bad situation. Your FUBAR all over the place. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Right. Right. So, oh, my goodness. Can you imagine the turnover on the health in the United States if you could have it and not abuse it? [00:14:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:22] Speaker A: And there was something out there that did it effortlessly. [00:14:25] Speaker C: Yeah. And without all of the. Again, like you say, the feeling that you have the next day from having alcohol is turned into a reward. It's kind of a reward. It's the end of the day reward or whatever reward or you're chasing or you're running from. At any rate, there is something out there that's not thc, which is. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Because THC is kind of on the other side. [00:14:53] Speaker C: Also has its problems. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:56] Speaker C: And alcohol. And so if you. The CBD is in the middle. It's just there. It kind of. It relaxes you. It takes those stresses away from the day. It does what it. It needs to do without the other. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Things brings that brain back into homeostasis and that's where the magic happens. [00:15:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:14] Speaker A: So there is real science behind it. Absolutely. So let's go to another dear near and dear area that you and I have spent a lot of time in and this year, senior care. [00:15:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:30] Speaker A: And so in today's population, it's the largest segment it's ever been. Baby boomers are all running into their, their later years. And I'm going to say that sometimes it looks like they're being tortured with some of today's Western medicine. Now, I know a lot of Western medicine is solving a lot of problems too. [00:15:54] Speaker C: Sure. [00:15:54] Speaker A: But I think in whole, a lot of us siblings are looking at our parents going, I wish there were some alternatives here. [00:16:03] Speaker C: Right. Those, you know, six or eight prescriptions that your parents are on. For me, my mother went through a situation and she immediately was put on many different prescriptions for it. And I just was so aware that some of those just were not great. Now, luckily, the doctor, throughout the time, she tested better and better and better. And so they've reduced a lot of those or gotten rid of them. [00:16:36] Speaker A: I'm hearing that doctors are all on board with that, that it no longer is, you know, prescribe, because, you know, all I listen to is the pharmaceutical company. [00:16:47] Speaker C: Right. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm actually very inspired to hear that anytime I do. So, yeah. All of us want better outcomes for our parents, right? [00:16:58] Speaker C: Yes. Especially if you get to a place where your parent has to be in a home. [00:17:04] Speaker A: Agreed. [00:17:05] Speaker C: They have to manage this. I mean, let's just say it as it is. We know that they're. There are personality problems that happen when you get into dementia and you get all those nighttime. What is that night? Sundowning. Yeah. And it can be very difficult for a home care facility to take care. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I've been in 12 of them this year, and each one of them, I got the exact same response. Oh, I'd love to. We can't. [00:17:38] Speaker C: Right. [00:17:39] Speaker A: And the same people would show up and they were all regulatory or they're all providers. The same obstacle would show up at every visit. Sometimes I felt, well, certainly from the staff perspective, frustration from their hands being tied. Now ownership has a different and a reasonable concern. Again, until it's been. Regulate it, until it's been set free legally. You know, could this put me in a bad position? And they're, they're responsible for holding on so that those residents have a place to be. [00:18:18] Speaker C: Right. [00:18:18] Speaker A: Yeah. They can't afford to make bad decisions. [00:18:20] Speaker C: No, no. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Because again, no decision to them is a good decision. [00:18:25] Speaker C: Right. That. And that's pretty much how everybody is, even an insurance company. So that's where hopefully some of this legality red tape, if it goes away, then can an insurance company Be comfortable saying, okay, yes, this is something you can do. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it might even fall into their health and wellness plan. [00:18:48] Speaker C: Right. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Like, if you. Then we will. Right, right. And we're happy, too. [00:18:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:55] Speaker A: I know I left a lot of blanks there, but that's enthusiastic ed for you. [00:19:01] Speaker C: Right. And I have been dealing with custom for quite a few years that either their loved ones or their children come in and will get some CBD to calm them down. Now, those are in facilities that maybe are not as monitored or restrictive as another facility. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Yes. And so that's your seniors. Now, we also don't want to miss another group that has become even nearer and dearer to us, to us humans over the last six or seven years. Right. [00:19:40] Speaker C: Yes. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Pets. [00:19:41] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:19:42] Speaker A: Pets have been really. I think we had a conversation yesterday, you and somebody else. Like, my pet looks at me like, well, where the hell is it now? Come on, come on. I want mine. Because they're becoming aware that it eases away some of those discomforts. [00:20:00] Speaker C: Yes. [00:20:00] Speaker A: May that be, you know, the night of 4th of July with all the fireworks, or maybe that be aging and my arthritis is. My hip is bugging me. And they're becoming aware that it's a potential solution. So I think that's definitely worth noting. [00:20:16] Speaker C: I would say definitely that Casey, our 12 year old golden retriever, realizes that this is something that is helping her feel better. I don't know. Maybe it's just me being a weird mom. [00:20:28] Speaker A: It could be. But I still think it's kind of neat and I wouldn't. Not expected. [00:20:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Right. [00:20:34] Speaker A: I mean, they have instincts. They have better instincts than us, I would imagine. Oh. [00:20:38] Speaker C: I always tell my customers, if you have one of those dogs that recognizes that this is a medicine or that this. You know what I mean? Maybe something. So a lot of my customers will give them CBD before they go to the groomers because it's a tense situation and they want them calm. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:59] Speaker C: It doesn't take long for a dog to go, oh, if I'm getting that, that means I'm going to. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's a good point. [00:21:06] Speaker C: You think your dog's not smart, buddy, Right? [00:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense. [00:21:09] Speaker C: But it's really great for pets. All pets, from a hamster to a horse. I don't know about an elephant because I don't know what their ECS system is, but they're really. It's very beneficial in many different ways. [00:21:24] Speaker A: Yes, Agreed. Thanks for sharing. There are other areas in the human roles that have that CBD has been studied for. So I would expect with the limited amount of clinical studies and the absence of human trials that this list will get expanded on greatly. I'm sure, because all of us, again, we say this a hundred times, if not more, that the cannabinoid CBD has an impact on the human body's ECS system. And that system regulates a lot of the systems in our body. Cannabinoids by themselves do not fix anything. They have no real purpose in the body except for one thing. Allowing the body to do what it was designed to do. [00:22:20] Speaker C: Right. [00:22:20] Speaker A: And it can do it in abundance. And if you know that correct profile of cannabinoids to put together, then you can target certain, certain, certain systems within the ECS system. Anyway, so given that knowledge, then this next piece makes more sense is why I brought it up there. So we're currently, we've currently studied it or the clinical environment has currently studied it for musculoskeletal system. You know, all those joints, muscles, tendons. It has been studied for a lot of mental health areas, cognitive, emotional and behavioral, and also some select diseases. And you know, I have numbers, a dozen of them that I'm aware of now. If human trials and further studies go underway, you've just that shallow list. There are so many things there, so many things there that are causing us, you know, to have such shorter lives or just, you know, uncomfortable. Thank you very much. [00:23:33] Speaker C: Yeah, a mental issue is very difficult. Pain and inflammation. Yeah, I mean that's just on a day to day, very hard to manage. And I've managed it before with over the counter pain medications and that did not turn out well for me at all. So now it's only cbd and it does work. [00:24:05] Speaker A: I got, I. Hey, I, I don't think there's, there's not many of us of the baby boomer age that does not have that story. Yeah, hey, Tylenol 800 and it's a prescription, but everybody had it. [00:24:18] Speaker C: Yeah, everybody. [00:24:20] Speaker A: So when your back really hurts, like, hey, mom and Sue, Bill, do you have any of those Tylenol 8 hundreds left? Yep, sure do. Oh, that's a lot, right? [00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I honestly, I, I feel like that's a lot. But I, if I was pro, I was taking 400 in the morning, 400 in the afternoon, and probably 400 in the evening. [00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:42] Speaker C: When I was in my real pain mode. So it's easy to abuse. And I did not realize what I was doing until the doctor was like, what are you doing? [00:24:51] Speaker A: Yep. [00:24:52] Speaker C: You got to stop that right now. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Glad there are doctors out there, too, that. Because you wouldn't have known, huh? [00:24:57] Speaker C: No, I. [00:25:00] Speaker A: Now, there's a few other areas we don't want to not mention when it comes to health. Sports. [00:25:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Sports and youth. [00:25:10] Speaker C: Well, they put their bodies through a tremendous amount of abuse. [00:25:16] Speaker A: I know. [00:25:17] Speaker C: And it's great when you're young. It really is. But as you get older, you are creating damage. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. If you tear up your body when you're young, just kind of Predict in your 60s how well your health is going to be if you struggle exercising because of injuries created when you're in high school or college. [00:25:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:38] Speaker A: So I know that. And I'm not just saying this is all because of cbd. No. There's more wisdom in sports today than definitely than what you and I experienced in high school and college. So the. The sports is definitely another real segment. So. And certainly as the sports figures age, that's where CBD is coming in. [00:26:05] Speaker C: Well, and I think that, you know, I don't want to say bad things about what. What are the pain pills that everybody used to take? [00:26:13] Speaker A: Codeine and. Oh, the. Oh, the. Yeah, I know what you mean. [00:26:17] Speaker C: Anyway. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Opioids. [00:26:19] Speaker C: We know that. I'm sure a lot of those athletes were taking those to, you know, continue playing through the pain. And I think that those are really reduced now worldwide. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:33] Speaker C: And so there has to be an alternative for those things. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's. That's a nice thing to see. And then last, not super. Not super health, but not. Not health either is cosmetics. [00:26:46] Speaker C: Oh, well, I beg to differ. [00:26:48] Speaker A: I knew you'd have an opinion on this. [00:26:52] Speaker C: I. Now do I use a lot CBD in my. All of my. [00:26:58] Speaker A: You add it to it, don't you? [00:27:00] Speaker C: I do. [00:27:00] Speaker A: I know, I know. [00:27:01] Speaker C: I put it right in my lotion. I. I'll take a cbd. [00:27:04] Speaker A: She even puts it in mine. And Jen, tell me until two days later, like, oh, no, I put some CBD in there. Oh, okay. [00:27:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, you. It's so good for your skin. There's so many receptors. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You're terrific. You're terrific. [00:27:17] Speaker C: So it's. It. I. Soap, lotions. [00:27:21] Speaker A: Yep. [00:27:22] Speaker C: Face creams, you name it. [00:27:24] Speaker A: All right, so that's on that side of the table. Expect to see some wonderful things come out now. Wonderful as in, hey, maybe I have solutions here with not the side effects that once were. Okay, let's say that that's first. Second is the cost if it can replace some of those prescribed medications, which, you know, on average can cost you know, $50,000 a year, you may not be paying that, but somebody is paying it. And indirectly you're still contributing to that. But that number could drastically improve too, from, from the consumer side of the table. [00:28:10] Speaker C: Right, right. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So, and then the opportunities for conjunction co junctive medicines, conjunctive treatments. Maybe you don't have to use so much of a medication that doesn't have quite the desirable side effects that you would like. Maybe you don't have to use as much because of this product's ability to help manage. Well, just be conjunctive. [00:28:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:28:37] Speaker A: So, all right, so that's our perspective on what possible in the very near future as this bill goes through the house. [00:28:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's wonderful. I mean, again, I know we're all excited. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Don't jinx it, babe. Don't jinx it. [00:28:55] Speaker C: We're gonna keep this path going because really it is people like you and I, Ed, that get on a podcast and talk about this plant and consumers and you know, just the whole community is saying, listen, we've already had this now for eight years in pretty much out. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Always been longer than that. But you're right. And, and in the big public. [00:29:19] Speaker C: Right. It's been eight years and there's no harm. You know, there were a lot of stories about it's harmful, it has these things. It's. I've had every test you can think of and I've been taking CBD every single day. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:36] Speaker C: For eight years. And. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Well, thank you for sharing. [00:29:39] Speaker C: Numbers are great. [00:29:40] Speaker A: Yeah, thank you for sharing that. And that is valuable to get. It really is. All right. All right. But we need to take a break. But make sure you return because I think the next two areas are extremely exciting industrial and environmental technology. So we're gonna take a short break and we will be right back. [00:30:09] Speaker D: Follow Voice [email protected] VoiceAmerica for juicy updates from your favorite radio shows and podcasts. [00:30:19] Speaker E: Live authentically. Heal naturally with Canafil. We have three unique blends for pain relief, reducing stress and promoting healthy sleep. Visit canafil.com for the convenience of online shopping. That includes free free shipping. Or if you're in Arizona, stop by our store in Phoenix for personal consultation and product selection. Our friendly staff is here to help you. 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That's where I think that's where everybody just really hesitates because let's face it, this world takes advantage. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. [00:33:07] Speaker C: That's a good point of a tiny little loophole. [00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:11] Speaker C: And there you are with a whole nother story. [00:33:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So I, hey, listen, for a lot of that delay. I absolutely understand. You have a good perspective. [00:33:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:33:23] Speaker A: You have to. You have to be aware that that truly is a responsibility of theirs. [00:33:28] Speaker C: Well, yeah, because again, we know that certain products have been manufactured in this industry in the last few years. That might not be really what was intended with that bill. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Yep. All right, so we have two other segments here. Let's move into industrial. And Willie Nelson likely started this trend. My goodness, what was that 10 years ago? Willie Nelson with his biofuel. He started with corn and then maybe he meant went to hemp. I'm positive he went to hemp. Anyway. [00:34:03] Speaker C: Okay. You know, I think. I don't know. I actually don't know that answer to that. I'M sure he was very well involved in the whole plant. [00:34:13] Speaker A: Well, he would, he would be an eco friendly kind of guy. [00:34:16] Speaker C: Yes. [00:34:17] Speaker A: So. So biofuel was one of the earlier considerations that hemp was invited to. [00:34:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker A: All right, so consider this. So not only biofuel, consider. How about auto parts, paper, upholstery fiber, fibers for clothing and other textiles. How about plastics, construction, livestock? All right, so we're going to dig into a few of these. Why? Because I can say all those groups and they do sound like a lot of groups, but once you start understanding the why, you go, uh huh. Now that makes sense. And our earlier conversation about, well, you know, industry is going to look at the capital cost of switching over their vendors, switching over their tooling, or adjusting their tooling to manage hemp instead of cotton or, or, or hemp this instead of wood from the forest. Once they figure these things out, there's going to be some rapid movements. [00:35:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I think the key is to get that. Well, and with what you said, that will hopefully just organically happen is to keep the cost. Let's try and make it comparable, like so a piece of hemp paper is a little more expensive than a regular piece of paper. And we know paper has many different levels of quality. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:53] Speaker C: So that's where we kind of. [00:35:56] Speaker A: Nobody has the tooling for it in place right now. So they got to do something unique to create that hemp paper. And they're also looking at opportunity costs too. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Sure. [00:36:07] Speaker A: If nobody else has it, I get to price it where I'm more comfortable. I don't have to be as competitive. But once everybody starts producing hemp paper, boom. Why do you want to produce hemp paper, by the way? What is the deal? The deal is, is because right now we're taking our forests down. [00:36:24] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:36:25] Speaker A: And that is very destructive for our environment. Talk to me about it, Kim. [00:36:29] Speaker C: Let's see, I got to find my, my little area here. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Deforestation is a huge concern. [00:36:36] Speaker C: Yes, yes. Right now our planet loses an estimated 19 million acres of forest per year. [00:36:46] Speaker A: I'm sorry, what's that number again? [00:36:49] Speaker C: 19 million acres. [00:36:51] Speaker A: Yeah, so, okay, so that's, that's an incredible amount. [00:36:55] Speaker C: You know, a lot of them are cleared to make way for farmland or crops, which. Okay, okay. Or the trees are harvested for products such as paper. [00:37:07] Speaker A: All right, so let's take this. So a tree. I don't know a whole lot about this, but my guess is trees can take 20 years to mature. [00:37:14] Speaker C: Yes, it does. It takes 20 to 30 years. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Oh, perfect. So I Was pretty close. So it takes 20 years to mature and then you go, well, Ed, you know, oh my God, how much hemp do you need to plant to be able to compete with a damn tree? Well, here's the thing you need to know. Hemp matures in three months. [00:37:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:33] Speaker A: I can put three crops on the ground. Yeah. And Kim's going to share later that that hemp is friendly to our soils. Hemp does not require pesticides. Hemp does not require chemicals. Hemp is. These are all the things that we know. Right. So replacing the, our deforestation with industrial hemp lands, that'll do that will improve both the land and give us our trees back. [00:38:06] Speaker C: Yes. [00:38:07] Speaker A: Which kind of is super important for. Hey, if you, you got, if you have that thing for global warming. Huge. Huge. If you have a thing for breathing oxygen. Huge. [00:38:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:19] Speaker A: All right. [00:38:20] Speaker C: I think one of the things that has, I mean, way back when, obviously paper was there. There was a time when hemp paper and wood paper were neck and neck. And then the wood paper, I mean, the hemp plant got taken away. So woodpaper took off. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Yeah. So. And clothing. Apparently the fibers created by, within the hemp plant are much, much more resilient, much more durable than the fibers that are in our current cotton. We know that cotton is a very demanding product. It requires a lot of pesticides and a lot of chemicals to produce. By the way, let's just say it, all those pesticides and chemicals are now in the ground. So if you are growing a crop nearby, welcome chemicals, welcome pesticides. [00:39:15] Speaker C: Right. [00:39:15] Speaker A: All right. So they have this miraculous ability to have an impact in all these areas and at the exact same time reversing some of the damages that we've caused. [00:39:27] Speaker C: Yes. [00:39:28] Speaker A: Which are only going to increase because our population is increasing. [00:39:32] Speaker C: Right. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Yeah. These. All right. Anyway, here's another big one. Plastics. [00:39:37] Speaker C: Yes. I think we're obviously becoming very aware of plastics in the US that this is some creation that was very bad for our planet. [00:39:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:51] Speaker C: And bad for us. [00:39:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So there's so many things about plastic that are bad. Really. They really are. Now they're able to make a version of eco friendly plastic using hemp and hemp. And that eco friendliness is that it is absolutely biodegradable. [00:40:08] Speaker C: Yes. And it is. Let me see here. So half of all plastic is estimated to be single use, which is very bad. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:21] Speaker C: And here we go into my segment. Hemp plastics are lightweight yet durable and they're entirely biodegradable. Even better, hemp plastics do not contain the chemicals found in regular plastics, they last their bioavailability. So they can sit there and break down and break down for quite a while in the earth and they're just feeding that area instead of killing it. [00:40:50] Speaker A: And I would imagine even the plants, the animals that are consuming plastic and then becoming toxic and. [00:40:56] Speaker C: Sure. [00:40:56] Speaker A: And losing. They're now getting a little dose of cbd. [00:41:00] Speaker C: Yeah, right. Or at least a clean earth. [00:41:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, I know. It is more about the clean earth. Right, so. So there we go. So plastics, huge, huge solution sitting there waiting for us to finish this up. Construction again, I'm thinking the primary building materials that we're most concerned about are our, our wood, our deforestation. But the second one are all the chemicals and some of the products. Insulation, roofing, all these hemp has already been used there. [00:41:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:37] Speaker A: And now we can put it back. I know, yeah. So, and then livestock. Livestock, not only food, but livestock also requires bedding. [00:41:48] Speaker C: Right. [00:41:48] Speaker A: And so again, if this is a natural cleanser for our soil, then giddy up. Why put, why put hay and straw in there? [00:42:00] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I mean, it really is a very versatile plant. And now we're talking about the industrial hemp, which is, I always get confused here. Is it different than a medicinal hemp? No, no, it's just that one, most consumers or most hemp farmers that are using their crop for a medicinal purpose grow it. [00:42:29] Speaker A: They still can enhance the cannabinoid profile. You are on spot. They will have the ability. So yes, you're right. This crop will separate. [00:42:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:39] Speaker A: And tactics that are used for human consumption will take on a skill and a talent. And those who are going towards industrial, their skills and talents will lean towards productivity, turn rate, output, stuff like that, to the health side. They're looking at cannabinoid profiles. And the cannabinoid profiles doesn't bother me at all because they'll do a great job of enhancing the ones that are non psychoactive, the ones that have all the medicinal properties for us. And as long as that plant doesn't exceed a certain level of any of the psychoactive cannabinoids, it's good to go. [00:43:19] Speaker C: Yeah, right, yeah. [00:43:21] Speaker A: And they'll probably have some, you know, ridiculous testing for that in the beginning until they learn it. [00:43:27] Speaker C: So hopefully, I mean, I'm sure there's two types of licenses. As a farmer, I call them, like I come from the legal world, people, so I always think of these things. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Right. [00:43:36] Speaker C: So an industrial guy who's just doing for concrete or paper or something like that, he doesn't have to Worry about the testing won't anymore. [00:43:45] Speaker A: Well, no, I don't. I don't think so. Yeah, I think where. I mean, it makes sense right now. Ask me to try to predict what. What somebody's going to be sitting around that table in Congress going, well, wait a minute. If they do this, then I want to make sure. [00:43:59] Speaker C: If it makes a cotton ball, can you eat a cotton ball and get high? [00:44:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:44:04] Speaker C: No. [00:44:07] Speaker A: That'S so. So expect that conversation to happen, though. Right? [00:44:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:10] Speaker A: All right, so let's move into other cool environmental technologies that you were able to uncover. [00:44:17] Speaker C: Well, the great thing about hemp, as Ed said earlier, I believe it is naturally resistant to disease and pests. [00:44:29] Speaker A: And so why is that a value? [00:44:31] Speaker C: Again, you don't need to use the chemicals and the pesticides and the fungicides and all those things that. [00:44:38] Speaker A: Naturally resistant by nature. [00:44:41] Speaker C: Right. So it's actually helping the soil, the water, you know, air contamination, reduction of biodiversity, all those things. Okay, so that. So that's great all in itself. If we can stop putting chemicals into the ground, hopefully, you know, the earth. [00:45:00] Speaker A: Will go, thank you, and produce better food for us. And then better food's going to do what for our inside. [00:45:07] Speaker C: Right, right. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Longer lives, more healthier lives. [00:45:10] Speaker C: And hopefully one day all of our food is organic. Again, not. Here's an organic section, here's a regular section. [00:45:17] Speaker A: And that organic section is, you know, 12% of the store. [00:45:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:21] Speaker A: And the other, you know, the other 88% is enjoy your pesticides. [00:45:25] Speaker C: Right. Which, you know, I know that's not a great way to live. Okay. Hemp also conserves water usage. It takes much less water to grow a hemp crop than it does to grow almost anything. Soy, cotton, all those they need. They need an enormous amount of water. Hemp. The hemp plant does not need that much water. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:51] Speaker C: So that's also great because we all know, you know, well, here in Arizona, we definitely will. [00:45:57] Speaker A: Some of us are conservative about water more so than others. [00:46:00] Speaker C: Yes, yes. California, all those places that don't get it. Hemp gives back to the earth, so it returns many of its nutrients into the ground. Thus the soil becomes healthier and erosion slows. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. Makes sense. [00:46:16] Speaker C: So now, I don't understand this term phytoremediation, because I didn't have time to look up that hemp is used to remove excessive selenium from the soil. S E L E N I U M so it really goes in and cleans it up. [00:46:44] Speaker A: And that's the general idea. [00:46:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:47] Speaker A: So, yeah. So phytomediation is just using a plant to clean the contaminants within the soil. So where could that lead us? [00:46:56] Speaker C: Well, we did that. We talked about Chernobyl and how they're using it there. Try and bring that whole section back to. [00:47:06] Speaker A: I think I'm going to. I'm going to go Google and find out what current methods they're using, because I believe I'd read once they are using hemp. [00:47:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Now, other things. How about all of these big trash hills we got running around here? [00:47:22] Speaker C: Oh, sure, the dumps. [00:47:24] Speaker A: Yeah, the dumps. The. Where they bury the. Where we. They bury our garbage. [00:47:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Isn't that called the dump? [00:47:30] Speaker A: No, no. But anyway. So that soil is being treated, but I think they're treating it with chemicals. [00:47:39] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. It is very weird because we don't often drive near those areas, obviously, because they're out far away. A trip that we take three times a year, we might drive by one and it's. It's like. It's almost like they made a giant mountain and then there's like these little stacks that emit gas or something out of them that can't. That can't be good. Right. It feels like that can't be good. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:48:08] Speaker C: But I, again, I'm not really sure, but it just seems like it's a natural thing. If it's easy to grow, easy to get there, get it to the soil. I. I don't understand. [00:48:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I think if the worker moved to fewer chemicals, we could solve those little, those things. We could put that, we could put the hemp back in that ground, revitalize the. Those soils and be okay. I think the only thing that would prevent that would be the chemicals used. [00:48:47] Speaker C: Right. [00:48:48] Speaker A: So once you make something up, Mother nature has to figure out how to, how to, how to process it. Anyway, what else you got? [00:48:55] Speaker C: Okay, so we talked about it slows down deforestation. We did, we did that. Environmentally friendly building material. We talked about that. Right. We got hemp Crete there. So concrete is at 8%. It's the second largest producer of CO2 emissions. That's concrete. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Okay. Unaware. Thank you for sharing that. [00:49:24] Speaker C: So using hemp to make concrete can put a dent in those sobering figures. So it's more, again, more friendly, more world friendly. And we talked about biodegradable plastics. So I mean, that's huge. Grows quickly and cleanly, ready for fiber harvest in as little as 60 days. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:50] Speaker C: Whereas we talked about trees are 10 to 20 years to be harvested. [00:49:54] Speaker A: Yeah. So. And, and that's where most People will have a struggle with this, will be like, oh, okay, so I'm just going to have hemp fields everywhere. Right. So they're going to have to cut the trees down to put these hemp fields in play. Well, no. The number of items that hemp can replace that's currently being used in industry. They already have the land. But even those crops are once a year. You'll move this to a crop that is three times a year even sounds like to me four times a year. [00:50:23] Speaker C: Right. And it really does take a smaller. [00:50:27] Speaker A: Amount, a smaller footprint to pull it off. [00:50:30] Speaker C: Yes. Because you're using just so much more wood. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:37] Speaker C: Than you are. Than you would hemp. [00:50:39] Speaker A: Yep. I'm telling you, I, I love every part of that section. And, and that's what Kim did. She went out and researched that section exclusively because we just knew it had lots of pieces. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, as, again, as we try and correct certain things that maybe we've done. Well, we can't even say maybe we've done. We've definitely done to the planet and to our environment and to ourselves even. Why not utilize this plant to its fullest capacity? Like, why not? [00:51:22] Speaker A: 100% agree with you. [00:51:24] Speaker C: If it's good for the planet and for us. I mean, I just don't see the reasons why not. Except for now, it's caught up in some bureaucratic bs Right. I didn't want to say the word. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Well, yeah. And I actually wanted to give all of our listeners and feel free to share this information, too, how to track that bill or just at least what the bill's name is. It's called the Hemp and hemp derived CBD Consumer Protection and Market Stabilization act of 2023. Its numbers, HR 1629. That's HR 1629. Congress has it. There is plenty of support on that bill so far. They're sourcing it right now for information or they're doing a request for information right now. So, yeah, follow that bill. You know, dial in, talk to your, talk to your congressman. I don't do whatever you guys do. 1629. HR1629 is the name of it. [00:52:32] Speaker C: Yeah. And if you're just like me, a nice, normal little person, I just sit and manifest. Just do it. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Manifest. I like that, too. Yeah. So it just has such an impact for. At our age group, being baby boomers has such an impact for our children. Those concerns that Kim and I have on a regular basis. Oh, my goodness. How are they going to survive that? Oh, is this, you know, can they have an impact on this? Can they turn this around in time? You know, what will they have? What will they be dealing with in 40 and 50 years from now? So we really do like the possibilities that this brings. Hey, it's not a cure, but it certainly is a movement in a really good direction that I think business can get behind. [00:53:19] Speaker C: Right, Right. Yes. We definitely do say, and we tell everyone it's not going to cure, but it is going to help manage. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So, okay. Well, hey, listen, I'm, I'm hoping that we didn't wear out our welcome by all the preaching, but we certainly appreciate everybody jumping on board with us as you have in the past. We're just excited about this opportunity that's coming up. So I hope you enjoyed our show and us peering into the future and, hey, what will it look like in the US if this were to happen? And I think it's just. I think it's great. I think it looks great. [00:53:59] Speaker C: It can't go bad. It can't go bad. I mean, there'll be a few weirdos out there, but for the majority, it's all good. [00:54:08] Speaker A: All right. So, hey, thank you for digging that information up for us and audience, thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed our show today. We had a wonderful time putting it off. So listen, everybody, have a great day and we'll see you on the next show. [00:54:23] Speaker C: Bye, everybody. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Bye. [00:54:30] Speaker B: Thank you for listening to the CBD Ed Show. Please join your host, Ed Chaney for another edition next Friday at 11am Pacific Time, 2pm Eastern on the Voice America Variety Channel. We can also be heard each week on the Voice America Health and Wellness Channel. Until we talk again. Enjoy the upcoming weekend and we'll be back with you soon.